Topic: R4 or CycloDS? (Read 1408 times)

Mishy · « **on:** Monday September 29, 2008, 02:06:43 AM »

What are the pros and cons of each one? And explain why you think it is better.

RomUlation Community · « **on:** Monday September 29, 2008, 02:06:43 AM »

Troublesome222 · « **Reply #1 on:** Monday September 29, 2008, 02:59:54 AM »

I don't really have much to say about r4, I've never used it,
but I do have a cycloDS, and I'll tell you, it is wonderful!
The layout is very simple and the design is great, also, the card fits into the ds perfectly, greatly made!

darksynyster · « **Reply #2 on:** Monday September 29, 2008, 03:02:47 AM »

These two reviews should help you out.

CycloDS (The best one in my opinion):
http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=53450

R4:
http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=41279

Read the Pros and Cons as well as the Homebrew and games support at the bottom of each review. You'll notice a considerable difference between them.

Anandjones · « **Reply #3 on:** Monday September 29, 2008, 09:23:05 AM »

CycloDS. Both support PALib, libnds, DevkitArm, lua etc. made homebrew fine.

Mishy · « **Reply #4 on:** Monday September 29, 2008, 05:07:43 PM »

Awesome, and it's true you can only purchase these online right?

darksynyster · « **Reply #5 on:** Monday September 29, 2008, 06:16:40 PM »

Quote from: Mishy on Monday September 29, 2008, 05:07:43 PM

Awesome, and it's true you can only purchase these online right?

That is correct. The MicroSD can be purchased in your local electronic store, but the flashcart (CycloDS, R4, etc) has to be bought online.

Mishy · « **Reply #6 on:** Monday September 29, 2008, 06:51:06 PM »

Okay.

cjdogger · « **Reply #7 on:** Monday September 29, 2008, 07:08:28 PM »

Well the pro's of the R4 is that it's really reliable, there's not been a firmware update lately because it's almost perfect emulation wise, it's simple to use, and the cheat.dat is the most compatible with it.
I have't played the CycloDS, I do know that it is similar to the R4 and it is about a tie between the two, however the CycloDS is still having firmware updates, in the future it may surpass the R4 alot or maybe not.
Either way, I prefer the R4, it's main point is reliability and that's what I want in a flashcart.

I am not an expert, if you want to know the full stats then check reviews on GBATemp or an expert site on flashcarts,
hope I helped

Edit: My post may be a bit biased. Here's some unbiased parts- If the R4 doesn't get updates eventually then the flashcart may become pretty bad, there's a rumour that the R4 team has quit and the R4 may decline... I personally think that some people would make updates for the R4 in the future who aren't the R4 team because it's quite popular but that's a maybe... So far it's pretty efficient though...

darksynyster · « **Reply #8 on:** Monday September 29, 2008, 09:12:44 PM »

Quote from: cjdogger on Monday September 29, 2008, 07:08:28 PM

Well the pro's of the R4 is that it's really reliable, there's not been a firmware update lately because it's almost perfect emulation wise, it's simple to use, and the cheat.dat is the most compatible with it.

The CycloDS is perfect emulation wise.

Quote from: cjdogger on Monday September 29, 2008, 07:08:28 PM

I have't played the CycloDS, I do know that it is similar to the R4 and it is about a tie between the two

Man, I see that as an insult to CycloDS. I mean the R4 is good or was good in it's prime but now it's dying. The CycloDS took the competition out a long time ago. However, I agree that the R4 is more popular, but that's because it has been around longer.

Quote from: cjdogger on Monday September 29, 2008, 07:08:28 PM

however the CycloDS is still having firmware updates, in the future it may surpass the R4 alot or maybe not.

It already did. Even the GBATemp team mentioned it in their review.

Quote from: cjdogger on Monday September 29, 2008, 07:08:28 PM

I am not an expert, if you want to know the full stats then check reviews on GBATemp or an expert site on flashcarts,
hope I helped

Read above comment.

Quote from: cjdogger on Monday September 29, 2008, 07:08:28 PM

Edit: My post may be a bit biased. Here's some unbiased parts- If the R4 doesn't get updates eventually then the flashcart may become pretty bad, there's a rumour that the R4 team has quit and the R4 may decline... I personally think that some people would make updates for the R4 in the future who aren't the R4 team because it's quite popular but that's a maybe... So far it's pretty efficient though...

Crap, you edited. Alright once again I agree that the R4 is probably the most popular flashcart but it's already past it's prime. I have used both the CycloDS and the R4 and I can sincerely tell you that I had less problems with the CycloDS. In fact, I've never had a problem with the CycloDS and I just updated to the latest firmware 2 days ago. I've been using my CycloDS with old firmware versions and it still was perfect. However, the CycloDS is expensive so a R4 would be a pretty good second choice.

Consequently, I strongly recommend the CycloDS flashcart, but if it's too expensive then go for the R4.

Anandjones · « **Reply #9 on:** Tuesday September 30, 2008, 02:18:00 AM »

CycloDS has had a few game incompatibilities if you didn't know. Better to buy the MicroSD online too.

adriskrayzee · « **Reply #10 on:** Tuesday September 30, 2008, 02:43:54 AM »

To get the best compatibility from the Flash Cards, make sure to get a Japanese microSD card, Kingston cards usually work the best.

Anandjones · « **Reply #11 on:** Tuesday September 30, 2008, 02:51:43 AM »

Japanese Kingstons are the best sort to get.

darksynyster · « **Reply #12 on:** Tuesday September 30, 2008, 02:55:45 AM »

Quote from: Anandjones on Tuesday September 30, 2008, 02:18:00 AM

CycloDS has had a few game incompatibilities if you didn't know. Better to buy the MicroSD online too.

Well of course, they had to. If they didn't, then they would have not improved anything. However, they did it with only a few firmware updates and it was a minor list of games compared to the other flashcarts.

When it comes to MicroSD, I agree with the above posts. if you can get your hands on a 2 GB Japanese Kingston MicroSD, then you are set for all your gaming needs.

Anandjones · « **Reply #13 on:** Tuesday September 30, 2008, 02:57:36 AM »

Another reason is the awesome features that Cyclo has and will get in the future, like in-game text reader. *Gets orgasm

darksynyster · « **Reply #14 on:** Tuesday September 30, 2008, 03:02:22 AM »

Quote from: Anandjones on Tuesday September 30, 2008, 02:57:36 AM

Another reason is the awesome features that Cyclo has and will get in the future, like in-game text reader. *Gets orgasm

It's already on beta, so don't be surprised if it comes out in the next update. Can't wait.

cjdogger · « **Reply #15 on:** Tuesday September 30, 2008, 06:25:56 PM »

The Cyclo's firmware can work on the R4 if you use a certain method that'll cost you a little bit of mb's , after all it is a clone

Mishy · « **Reply #16 on:** Tuesday September 30, 2008, 08:55:42 PM »

A friend of mine told me recently that the R4 is gonna just die soon because Nintendo sued them. I checked the official site they haven't had a firmware update since April of this year.

So more than likely I will be going with CycloDS. Since I don't have PayPal or a Credit Card, my b/f is giving me the money to give to a friend who has a Credit Card to get it for me. He says it's a early Christmas Gift...

So, I should be getting my CycloDS like next week. My will put in the order as soon as he gets home from work.

cjdogger · « **Reply #17 on:** Wednesday October 01, 2008, 04:42:03 PM »

Nintendo haven't sued them... That's bullsh*t! But the CycloDS is probably the best choice.
The R4 team isn't fully together anymore, they've kinda quitted it...

afrokid13 · « **Reply #18 on:** Wednesday October 01, 2008, 10:13:17 PM »

the cyclo ds is better than the R4, there is a new r4 out there called a r4sdhc And that is better than cyclo ds. surprisingly though not many people know about it and i havent seen a single review anywhere.

Noop · « **Reply #19 on:** Wednesday October 01, 2008, 10:32:21 PM »

Nintendo DID sue a lot of flash card manufacturers, I wouldn't be surprised if R4 was among them. R4 is pretty old stuff by now, many cards have surpassed it in terms of features.

I have a SuperCard DS ONE myself which is pretty sweet, though lately it's been pissing me off. I would go with CycloDS myself, I've heard only good things. I plan on picking one up in the near future as my supercard seems to be dying.

Also just curious, does the CycloDS support SDHC? I got a 4GB Kingston and I'm hopin' it works.

adriskrayzee · « **Reply #20 on:** Wednesday October 01, 2008, 11:50:33 PM »

As I understand, it does.

Mishy · « **Reply #21 on:** Thursday October 02, 2008, 12:36:32 AM »

I can't wait! I really want my card now...

Barathrum · « **Reply #22 on:** Thursday October 02, 2008, 02:11:38 AM »

yeah i heard there is no more r4 firmware coming out D:

Anandjones · « **Reply #23 on:** Thursday October 02, 2008, 02:16:49 AM »

Yes Cyclo supports SDHC MicroSDs. Nintendo mainly sued companies and stores that sold the R4s, not necessarily the manufacturers. They don't really release their address to anyone, for obvious reasons.

Mishy · « **Reply #24 on:** Thursday October 02, 2008, 04:34:25 AM »

Oh, I see now. Well, maybe I could at a store in China town. New York...

But I truly believe I'm getting mine from online. Either way, I'll be happy as hell, cause I can play my games on my actual DS instead of on the computer.

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